|back to main board||collapse thread|
|Empedocles (07/02/17 10:55:17)||Reply|
Strife was the force that separeted them; Love mixed them again.
Pretty much like the internet of our moden days, don't you think?
|Re: Empedocles (07/02/17 21:59:34)||Reply|
It is appreciation, an extension of a thought that you had on a chilled Sunday morning while sipping some coffee, a constent reminder that what you currently know is a continuation of what you knew yesterday, last month, last year or better yet last millennium
"the world was made up of four substances"
Maybe if you understand them you might be able to see the world as he saw it, but then again why would you want to....
|Made up of four substances (13/02/17 10:29:38)||Reply|
Why would we want to see the world as he did? Perhaps because it's a world in its most original form, I mean it's the raw materials there, without all the (mis)conceptions that ages of (propaganda? advertizements?) have added to it.
Anyway it is much more fun.
|Re: Made up of four substances (15/02/17 09:10:57)||Reply|
Four elements indeed. It is 92+ (not to mention the isotopes), and their compounds, and their processes, and the energy.
Trumpism, Erdoganism, Brexism, Putinism: Gifted people regressing into Greek philosophy. Religion and light-weight emotionality as the driving forces in politics: Dark ages are ahead.
|I was just kidding, man! (21/02/17 10:10:51)||Reply|
Did you know that some authors considered Empedocles as predecessor of quantum physics?
No way intellectual suicide: go ask Mr. Stephen Hawkings :-)
You seem too sad to me today, btw.
|Re: I was just kidding, man! (21/02/17 11:29:42)||Reply|
Experimental science is having a hard time nowadays. It takes too long and costs too much money. Speculations are much cheaper and more rewarding, specially if there is political and religious support.
|hey, serious old man (24/02/17 08:03:05)||Reply|
humans will be humans. that didnt change for thousand of years...
we need not concern ourselves with speculations, religion and politics.
we need to use the above and concentrate on one block at a time with precise bureaucratic efficiency.
yes, a few oxymorons here, but i have my days of cautious optimism.
besides, i have seen a few specs of light in the darkness recently...
as a side note, your thoughts on quantum biology?
|Re: hey, serious old man (25/02/17 18:03:24)||Reply|
Inventions are not made by "the people" or by politically appointed committees or by order. Truths defined by politicians or administrators may perform poorly when tested in the field, but may still be enforced. Trumped through, as you might say these days.
I saw through my career, now successfully terminated by me, that there has been a strong decrease in the ability of planning and performing experimental work. I think this has been a deliberate process because it has increased the power of politics and decreased the power of rationality. Science rating has been reduced to countable publications and press releases. Hyping of irrelevant scientific findings is the most common method of cheating in science. Nobody gets caught for that.
So lay off the philosophy and let people spend time reading science and spending time in the field and in well-equipped labs (now considered too expensive even though basic equipment is cheaper than ever).
|Vicious circle (26/02/17 11:07:26)||Reply|
Maybe it all boils down to laziness?
|So, what say ye, Ritz? (n/t) (26/02/17 11:08:06)||Reply|
|Re: Vicious circle (26/02/17 18:14:58)||Reply|
Scientific work in religion is mostly cheap. Books will do. You don't need a single mass spectrometer in an entire faculty of theology. (But CERN is well financed, and they did find the God particle, didn't they?)
|philosophy, a dead "art" (26/02/17 17:35:44)||Reply|
technocrats are the worst managers imo.
not to mention, terrible poets.
but maybe its just me reading you wrong...
i will shut up now.
thank you for your answer.
|Re: philosophy, a dead "art" (27/02/17 06:40:04)||Reply|
Now there is a POTUS who is inaccurate about facts. There are others - and they are believed because the press, who should be policing such behaviour, is part of the inaccuracy process.
The recent terror in Sweden - as reported by POTUS? It just didn't happen. That's news for the POTUS, and a misunderstanding or fabrication for others.
So there is a need for the opposition to be accurate and reliable with facts. It could mean presentation of all the data for those interested, instead of cherrypicking of sensational or convenient single events. IMHO philosophy should be a help to live in the modern world - looking at today and looking forward - disconnected from special interests.
|sorry (03/03/17 20:06:20)||Reply|
im just an old prick still listening to punk
atari teenage riot
|apparently, life ended for me somewhere in 2003. (n/t) (03/03/17 20:09:54)||Reply|
|Re: Re: philosophy, a dead "art" (11/06/17 17:27:03)||Reply|
|Re: Re: Re: philosophy, a dead "art" (13/06/17 21:29:31)||Reply|
So even science is getting closer to death.
Sorry - it wasn't a reply to your question.
|true (11/08/17 19:53:05)||Reply|
what was my question again?
i strongly disagree with your views on philosophy (and science, werent they the same?)
perhaps you had far too greater expectations.
i could elaborate, but ill stop at that.
|Re: Empedocles (08/02/17 22:23:18)||Reply|
Ancient Greek philosophy: Some of it was entertaining to read, but I have wasted far much time on that useless stuff. They should have given us Demokrit and Herodot instead of Empedokles, Protagoras and Socrates. Well, we did get Archimedes and Pythagoras, which was good.
|Isaak (Isaac) Babel (10/02/17 18:51:29)||Reply|
You might wish to do the same.
|Re: Empedocles (05/07/17 04:13:55)||Reply|
gravity, the strong nuclear force, the electromagnetic force and the weak nuclear force are what make up everything.
I've thought that love could be quantum entanglement, sharing merging and mingling wavefronts of unity, then even ever after at a distance forever connected.
we're all just vibrations within vibrations - all that ever was all that will ever be.
love is all you need.
|Re: Re: Empedocles (21/07/17 22:35:31)||Reply|
And expand it.
|This board has been visited 684392 times||Current time is 19/02/20 08:13:18|