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Fats Waller (1904-1943) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fats_Waller) (09/06/22 07:36:41) Reply
    As long as I can remember, I've loved his Ain't misbehavin". I looked up Mr. Waller yesterday and found his lyrics writer, Andy Razaf:

    "Razaf was born in Washington, D.C., United States.[1] His birth name was Andriamanantena Paul Razafinkarefo. He was the son of Henri Razafinkarefo, nephew of Queen Ranavalona III of the Imerina kingdom in Madagascar, and Jennie Razafinkarefo (née Waller), the daughter of John L. Waller, the first African American consul to Imerina.[2] The French invasion of Madagascar (1894-95) left his father dead, and forced his pregnant 15-year-old mother to escape to the United States, where he was born in 1895."

    With all the restrictions: the New York, USA, was sometimes better than all other places.

    I expect a surge of creativeness when more restrictive governments have been replaced by something better.

    We have a lot of candidates.

Mikhail Osipovich Dolivo-Dobrovolsky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Dolivo-Dobrovolsky) (09/06/22 09:05:32) Reply
    "Mikhail Dolivo-Dobrovolsky was born as the son of the Russian civil servant and landowner of Polish descent Josif Florovich Dolivo-Dobrovolsky and Olga Mikhailovna Jewreinova from an old Russian noble family in Gatchina near Saint Petersburg. He spent his school days in Odessa, where his father was transferred in 1872. After secondary school he went at the age of 16 to the Riga Polytechnic, a college founded by Baltic Germans, teaching in German language. At the end of the 1870s, after a series of assassination attempts and finally the murder of Tsar Alexander II in 1881, a wave of repression broke out, with which all progressively oriented students were expelled from their university, which was equivalent to a study ban in all of Russia. Among them was Dolivo-Dobrovolsky. After his forced exmatriculation in Riga in 1881, he left his homeland in 1883 and went to Germany."

    And what did he do there? He invented three-phase alternating current equipment (working at AEG).

Re: Mikhail Osipovich Dolivo-Dobrovolsky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Dolivo-Dobrovolsky) (12/06/22 12:33:58) Reply
    So tsars and hitlers, then and now, expel brilliant people. Bad for them, but with a long latency.

Re: i hate long subject lines :-p (12/06/22 15:28:48) Reply
    >> Bad for them, but with a long latency.

    not necessarily.

    the 3rd reich was fairly short.
    the "soviet", less than 80y no?

    now its true they all had serious opposition, but my point is that both systems would have collapsed on their own. for various reasons. one of them being, the loss of minds ( human resources :) ), which imo is far more important than natural or financial ones.


    [and who actually owned a VW "beetle" before the end of the war?]

    anyway, the question imo should be, how much damage they can do outward in that period vs how many human resources we can "harvest" from them and is that ratio worth the effort.

    >> With all the restrictions: the New York, USA, was sometimes better than all other places.

    sad but true.

    and yet, i remember something from sholem aleichem (or i am getting senile) that said something like... when we arrived in america, we found out that not only the streets are not paved with gold but that they are not paved at all. and in fact we have to pave them ourselves.

    *eh, i would say something here about ukraine cossacks and the balfour declaration, but ill have to find the thread first...


    there are exceptions in the category of tsars and hitlers imo. like catherine the great. i wouldnt mine her ruling my country for a few decades...

Re: yep, i was wrong on the quote... (12/06/22 16:02:50) Reply
    but i somehow remember it from sholem aleichem...
    i guess he probably quoted it and it stuck with me.
    never thought to search it though.
    shame on me.

Tsars, hitlers, and the first quisling (13/06/22 17:08:57) Reply

Re: Heisenberg, The Bomb, and a sprinkle of heavy water (14/06/22 17:16:36) Reply
    "A little-known operation of the Manhattan Engineer District took place in Europe. Code-named the "Alsos" Mission, these intelligence-gathering operations moved with the advancing Allies to learn firsthand how close Germany was to developing its own atomic weapon. Under the command of General Leslie Groves, these operations succeeded in capturing most of the key German scientists, stores of uranium ore and other nuclear raw materials, and thousands of research documents regarding the development of atomic energy.

    When Groves learned the origins of the code name "Alsos," he was infuriated: "The Manhattan Project always carefully avoided drawing undue attention to its work and to its people. Code names for our projects were deliberately innocuous. Imagine my horror, then, when I learned that the G-2 had given the scientific intelligence mission to Italy the names "Alsos," which one of my more scholarly colleagues promptly informed me was the Greek word for "groves." My first inclination was to have the mission renamed, but I decided that to change it now would only draw attention to it."

    A number of European physicists, including Leo Szilard, Enrico Fermi, and Emilio Segre, were extremely worried about a German effort to build an atomic bomb. "

    "Still others have made the case that the German atomic program to develop a bomb was farther along than most historians have believed and some have alleged that Diebner's team conducted the first successful nuclear weapon test of some type (employing hollow charges for ignition) of nuclear-related device in Ohrdruf, Thuringia on 4 March 1945. The recent discovery of over 126,000 barrels of nuclear waste buried over 2000 feet in an abandoned salt mine near Hanover, Germany in 2011 has created further controversy surrounding the extent of the German atomic bomb program."


    (the article is worth a read)

    "In February, 2006, scientists from Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt in Germany traveled to Thuringia and took samples of soil to see if there was evidence there of any kind of a nuclear blast. Their reported revealed no abnormal background levels of radiation, other than those elevated as a result of the Russian Chernobyl reactor accident in 1986. Still, the report emphasizes that the tests do not disprove that there was an atomic blast at that location. It simply shows that there is no evidence in the soil to to support such a claim."

    As a citizen of a peripheral country, it is of interest to have a final reply to the question: Was the heroic sabotage of the Norwegian heavy water production facility useless or not?

    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage) (dramatic and informative. Peacetime yield: Two full-length movies).

    AFAIK the Israeli Dimona reactor was also supplied with heavy water from Norsk Hydro )mow the fertiliser business is taken over by Yara, while Hydro is aluminium only).


    Ah, those good old days.

so you disagree with my pov i guess (16/06/22 17:36:51) Reply
    i could answer, but im not sure if i read you right or what you are hinting at.
    call me thick.

Re: so you disagree with my pov i guess (18/06/22 13:55:05) Reply
    I don't know. Maybe.
    If you think systems collapse all of their own - I don't believe that. I don't believe in the inevitable forces of history (yes, I have heard marxist-leninists speaking about them, but most of what they said was false, outright lies and attempts at deception.) History is made by people, and for a regime to fall someone has to remove it. One force never mentioned by political propagandists is the corruption on their own side. So most of the underlying corruption - on both sides - remains hidden.

    I look at physical realities and ask the eternal question: Who benefits?

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